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Re: [mv] Minivend Admin Interface (was Order Number vs Cybercash Order-ID)



******    message to minivend-users from Ed LaFrance <edlafrance@printexusa.com>     ******

I think that all the functions mentioned below are within the reach of the 
standard tag set of Minivend 3.1x, and it is just a matter of building the 
pages.  An "admin" interface like the one described would make a really 
nice addition to the simple demo.

Ok, we all know that Mike has his hands full.  Calling all mvend 
developers: if you have page content for any part of this proposed Admin 
area, please contribute if you are willing!  I currently have nothing, but 
will do the same if I do develop something.  If give it to Mike, perhaps he 
will include it in the demo distribution?

- Ed L.

At 11:09 PM 2/25/00 -0800, you wrote:
>******    message to minivend-users from "Christopher Thompson" 
><ct@arborinternet.com>     ******
>
>I think one thing that Minivend seems to be lacking that most other
>shopping cart systems have is a non-technical Admin interface to:
>
>- modify the products database,
>- upload/download product images (and other images as well)
>- review orders (possibly with link to processor if there is one),
>- update order status (plus adding info for the user like shipper tracking
>codes),
>- do basic maintenance on the UserDB (e.g. delete records),
>- take the site offline for maintenance and have a offline HTML page
>displayed (this would require a change to minivend but would be so much
>better than that HTML built into vlink/tlink).
>
>These are really the basic admin functions needed to run an online shop.
>Put simply: you put a product data record and picture online for people to
>see, your get orders, and then you provide customer service. The products,
>transaction and userdb are the three standard databases in Minivend. The
>other databases (and the userdb to some extent) are really optional based
>on site requirements.
>
>Of the three standard databases, the products and userdb are pretty easy
>to work with. The transaction database, however, is the one with a little
>voodoo surrounding it. It should probably be split into two tables, one
>for orders and another for order-items that references back to the orders
>table. That would require modifying the report page. I think anyone who
>has tried to modify transactions or the order status page know how weird
>and inflexible those double use data fields are.
>
>I think MiniMate can do some of these things, but is more focused on
>catalog and database configuration, plus upload/download. I don't know if
>MiniMate for MV4.0 adds more.
>
>A set of pages to do the things I listed above would not be too hard to
>write, and perhaps already exist. They should probably use SSL. The
>changes I proposed to Minivend (offline page and splitting transactions)
>would be up to Mike Heins to decide. I would be interested to hear others
>thoughts. I had really only intended to reply with my first sentence of
>this message and leave it a that, but once I started typing it just all
>came out.
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-minivend-users@minivend.com
> > [mailto:owner-minivend-users@minivend.com]On Behalf Of OTR Comm
> > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 6:42 PM
> > To: minivend-users@minivend.com
> > Subject: Re: [mv] MV Order Number vs Cybercash Order-ID
> >
> >
> > ******    message to minivend-users from OTR Comm
> > <otrcomm@wildapache.net>     ******
> >
> > Christopher Thompson wrote:
> > >
> > > ******    message to minivend-users from "Christopher
> > Thompson" <ct@arborinternet.com>     ******
> > >
> > > I asked about the status of the [cybercash-response] UserTag
> > a while back,
> > > but got no answer. Does anyone know the status if this
> > UserTag? It could
> > > be used to return values from the CyberCash transaction. I
> > would assume
> > > that you could then use the CyberCash order ID rather than the order
> > > counter for the order number.
> > >
> > > With CyberCash, when the order is processed a hold is put on
> > the customers
> > > funds, but they are not charged. You need to go the the
> > CyberCash site to
> > > batch and submit the order to actually debit the card. I
> > believe you are
> > > not supposed to debit the card before the product ships.
> > >
> > > As to your last question, you would need to define a little
> > further what
> > > you mean by "order fulfillment/shipment initiation" software.
> >
> > Well, what I envision is a MySQL based order control system that is
> > maintainable via the Web.
> > Something that a shop owner can use to check the status of orders (e.g,
> > availability of merchandise before batching the cybercash transactions).
> >
> > In the same sense, it would be nice to have a Web based tool to monitor
> > the internal progress of getting merchandise to the 'loading dock' and
> > on its way to the customer.  Then once it is 'on its way,' to have all
> > the purchase, order, cybercash, shipping information consolidated into a
> > transaction specific record in MySQL.
> >
> > Then, from anyplace, the store owner can go to the Web and check the
> > status of any transaction.
> >
> > Any ideas?  I'll write one if it doesn't exist!
> >
> > Murrah Boswell
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-minivend-users@minivend.com
> > > > [mailto:owner-minivend-users@minivend.com]On Behalf Of OTR Comm
> > > > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 12:38 AM
> > > > To: MiniVend List
> > > > Subject: [mv] MV Order Number vs Cybercash Order-ID
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ******    message to minivend-users from OTR Comm
> > > > <otrcomm@wildapache.net>     ******
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know how I can make the ORDER NUMBER in
> > Minivend the same as
> > > > the Order-ID in Cybercash?  Or is there a better way of
> > correlating the
> > > > transactions?
> > > >
> > > > Also, is there an automated capability of Minivend or
> > Minimate to track
> > > > the status of orders and approvals from Cybercash aside from email?
> > > >
> > > > I am new to Minivend and am trying to figure out how you
> > work the timing
> > > > issues of purchase:credit card verification:transaction
> > approval:product
> > > > availability from warehouse:shipping confirmation:financial
> > transaction.
> > > >
> > > > That is, I do not want to finalize the credit card transactions and
> > > > debit a customer's bank account until I can confirm that product is
> > > > available for shipment and that the product has been shipped.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know of any good "order fulfillment/shipment initiation"
> > > > software that ties into Minivend or is opensource and will
> > work?  Phew!
> > > >
> > > > TIA,
> > > > Murrah Boswell
> > > > otrcomm@wildapache.net
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