[ic] Re: Big Login Problem, :backup, access.Asc , and an encryption problem

Young Family ary@communicationfactory.com
Tue, 20 Mar 2001 03:31:09 -0800


It's me again (Alan Young) with my Big Login Problem.

I am trying to get in to my admin area, thanks to all of you for telling me
about access.asc. and the :backup back door. That is the only way I could
get in to my site.

So I go in to /var/lib/interchange/construct/products/access.asc

I see a line in access.asc describing my admin user and it says....
username    password name             last_login                 super etc
admin        123                 Alan Young            985173411 1 2ndDayAir
Ground NextDay etc

The password 123 got there because I logged in as :backup and I clicked
administration, then tables, then I chose the table named access.
Then I typed 123.  Then I went back to telnet and viewed access.asc and
there it was, clear as day , the password was 123.

But the 123 password never got encrypted when it is stored in access.asc, so
when I then try to login as user=admin, password=123 , I never am able to
log in, it says Failure: Password mismatch.

So the administrative interface is not encrypting my password before it puts
it in to my access.asc table.

Ideas? Solutions? Suggestions? Is this a bug, or do I have some encryption
setting messed up? There are so many parameters to set, I must have missed
something in the install maybe.

Alan Young
ary@communicationfactory.com


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>   3. Re: Please wait while your request is processed (jojo@blackpoint.de)
>   4. Re: Please wait while your request is processed (Ton Verhagen)
>   5. Search/Check in Column (joachim.richter)
>   6. Re: Please wait while your request is processed (jojo@blackpoint.de)
>   7. RE: >>>[ic] Fw: Big Login Problem (Young Family)
>   8. Re: HTML editor (Rick Lord)
>   9. FrontPage (F. James Rohlf)
>   10. Re: FrontPage (Casey R. Tweten)
>   11. Re: FrontPage (Mike Heins)
>   12. Basket won't go anwhere (davidb)
>   13. RE: >>>[ic] Fw: Big Login Problem (Ed LaFrance)
>   14. search fields (Mat Jones - booksellersolutions.com)
>   15. Re: HTML editor (Ed LaFrance)
>   16. Checkout --- Required vs not required (joachim.richter)
>   17. Re: HTML editor (John Beima)
>   18. gvim indentation, was html editors (Dylan Oliver)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:05:45 +0800
> From: Integricity Support <support@integricity.com>
> Reply-To: Integricity Support <support@integricity.com>
> Organization: Integricity Corp.
> To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
> Subject: [ic] Deleting Affiliates...
> Reply-To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
>
> Hello Team Akopia,
>
> Just wondering, is there the functionality to delete affiliates
> without using the tables? I guess this would be good for the time when
> the entire access controls, depending on login is implemented.
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Integricity                            mailto:support@integricity.com
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:01:25 +0530
> From: Amit Kulkarni <amitk@infinity-design.com>
> To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
> Subject: [ic] how to use a variable in a usertag in flypage.html
> Reply-To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
>
> how do i use $somevariable defined inside a usertag defination in
> catalog.cfg in flypage.html
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:39:48 +0100 (CET)
> From: jojo@blackpoint.de
> Subject: Re: [ic] Please wait while your request is processed
> To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
> Reply-To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
>
> Ton,
>
> I'm glad to get your hint. But I did not find it in the docs.
> Can you point me, where I can get more informations about mv_delay_page?
>
> All the best and a lot of thanks,
>
> jojo
>
> On 20 Mar, Ton Verhagen wrote:
> > Jojo,
> >
> > This might be what you're looking for: mv_delay_page
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Ton
> [DEL]
>
> --
> -------------<FreeBsd>--------------------------------------------------
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> email: jojo@blackpoint.de       FAX  : +49 0209-398265
> http://www.bpaserver.net
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:22:44 +0100
> To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
> From: Ton Verhagen <ton@verhagen.net>
> Subject: Re: [ic] Please wait while your request is processed
> Reply-To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
>
> Jojo,
>
> At 11:39 AM 3/21/01 +0100, you wrote:
> >Ton,
> >
> >I'm glad to get your hint. But I did not find it in the docs.
> >Can you point me, where I can get more informations about mv_delay_page?
> [DEL]
>
> ictemplates.pod:
> mv_delay_page        dp  S   Delay search until after inital page display
>
> One could use mv_delay_page on a search form in order to display a page
> immediately while waiting for the results of a time consuming search. The
> results page would be displayed once the search was completed.
>
> As far as can recall mv_delay_page was still in MV4.0, but I haven't found
> it in IC4.6.4. Maybe it is taken out (by accident).
> If it's taken out, start banging on Mike and his team to put it back in
> again. This kind of functionality should be part of the default
> distribution imho. Maybe it's been replaced by something else, but I
> haven't found that either.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Ton
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:04:12 +0100
> From: "joachim.richter" <joachim.richter@usvideocenter.de>
> To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
> Subject: [ic] Search/Check in Column
> Reply-To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
>
> hi there,
>
> we just got the glorious idea to have buttons/ links vanish if certain
fields are not present.
>
> this is easy
>
> [if-item-field xsound1]<a href="scan/fi=[scratch
cross_file]/sf=xsound1/se=[item-field xsound1]">[item-field
xsound1]</a>[/if-item-field]
>
> and it works.....but what if we want to have a link/button vanish, if
certain information in a column is missing :
>
> we tried this which seems logical (kinda) :
>
> [seti count][data table = products_internet column = internet key =
Z][/seti]
> [if scratch count ne 0]
> <tr><td>
> [page scan
> fi=products_internet
> sf=internet
> se=Z
> tf=category
> to=x
> tf=title
> to=x
> ml=10
> su=yes
> ]<img src="__navigation__/dd.gif" border="0">[/page]
> </td></tr>[else][/else][/if]
>
> but it doesnt seem to work and what if we have 5 buttons/links in one
document which we like to attach the same functionality to.
> do we have to change count into count1, count2, count3 .....
>
> help is greatly appreciated
>
>
> joe
> US Video Center Medien GmbH
> Heimsheimer Str 22
> 70499 Stuttgart
>
> Tel 0711 880252 0
> Fax 0711 880252 22
> Email joachim.richter@usvideocenter.de
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:20:23 +0100 (CET)
> From: jojo@blackpoint.de
> Subject: Re: [ic] Please wait while your request is processed
> To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
> Reply-To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
>
> On 21 Mar, Ton Verhagen wrote:
> > Jojo,
> >
> > At 11:39 AM 3/21/01 +0100, you wrote:
> >>Ton,
> >>
> >>I'm glad to get your hint. But I did not find it in the docs.
> >>Can you point me, where I can get more informations about mv_delay_page?
> > [DEL]
> >
> > ictemplates.pod:
> > mv_delay_page        dp  S   Delay search until after inital page
display
> >
> > One could use mv_delay_page on a search form in order to display a page
> > immediately while waiting for the results of a time consuming search.
The
> > results page would be displayed once the search was completed.
> >
> > As far as can recall mv_delay_page was still in MV4.0, but I haven't
found
> > it in IC4.6.4. Maybe it is taken out (by accident).
> > If it's taken out, start banging on Mike and his team to put it back in
> > again. This kind of functionality should be part of the default
> > distribution imho. Maybe it's been replaced by something else, but I
> > haven't found that either.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Ton
>
> Thank you a lot! Hmmm...can I use mv_delay_page outside of any search
> and results pages? If I recall right, I can use [search-region send=1]
> in my results page too, to get the same behavior like mv_delay_page.
> Hmmm...is there any MV/IC-Tag like [page-region send=1] to display a
> page immediately during the page building by IC?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joachim
>
> --
> -------------<FreeBsd>--------------------------------------------------
> Hans-Joachim Leidinger          black point arts Internet Solutions GmbH
> email: jojo@blackpoint.de       FAX  : +49 0209-398265
> http://www.bpaserver.net
>
>
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>
> Message: 7
> Reply-To: "Young Family" <ary@communicationfactory.com>
> From: "Young Family" <ary@communicationfactory.com>
> To: <interchange-users@lists.akopia.com>
> Subject: RE: >>>[ic] Fw: Big Login Problem
> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 05:41:48 -0800
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Reply-To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
>
> You wrote ...
>
> >>username: interchange
> >>Password: pass
>
> Ok now that I tried that and it doesnt work, what next? I will reiterate
my
> previous question..
> just what files in the system can I go to to reset the password? Obviously
I
> have screwed something up, and I just cannot get in.
>
> I need to figure out how to get in to the admin area so aI can build my
shop
>
> Alan Young
> ary@communicationfactory.com
>
>
> [ic] Fw: Big Login Problem
> Bob Puff@NLE bob@nleaudio.com
> Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:42:59 -0500
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:40:12 -0700
> From: Rick Lord <rick@desertlord.com>
> To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
> Subject: Re: [ic] HTML editor
> Reply-To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
>
> I use NoteTab when on Windows and Emacs when on Linux. Those are the
> best editors I have found.
>
> John Beima wrote:
> >
> > If you are a REAL web developer, you should use vi, vim, gvim, pico,
notepad, or
> > just plain old MS-DOS edit.
> >
> > Frontpage is for people who know nothing. No professional in his right
mind
> > would be caught dead using FrontPage. God the hours I have spent
cleaning up the
> > crappy useless code it produces.
> >
> > Here is a simple answer real professional web authors write their own
code. Just
> > like real programmers. Are you a professional or not? God I always love
this
> > one! (-: FrontPage YUCK!
> >
> > John Beima
> >
> > Quoting "F. James Rohlf" <rohlf@life.bio.sunysb.edu>:
> >
> > > Editing the Interchange catalog files seems a bit awkward because the
> > > various files (pages, special_pages, and normal HTML files) get
swapped
> > > in
> > > and out dynamically by Interchange. Which HTML editors work best in
this
> > > environment? Obviously, MS FrontPage which I have used for 'normal'
web
> > > pages does not work so well here -- even if I could figure out how to
> > > get
> > > the FrontPage extensions installed.
> > >
> > > Thanks, Jim
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Interchange-users mailing list
> > > Interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
> > > http://lists.akopia.com/mailman/listinfo/interchange-users
> > >
> >
> > John Beima
> > jbeima@palb.com, support@alocalagent.com, and support@alocalchurch.com
> >
> > P.A.L.B. Systems - Phone: (780)451-1086 - Fax: (780)447-4760
> > 11639-122 Street, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, T5M 0B6
> >
> > Affordable Web Pages - Phone: (888)932-9990 - Fax: (256)351-7297
> > 2713B Spring Place SW, Decatur, Alabama, United States, 35603
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Interchange-users mailing list
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>
> --
> Rick Lord
> Desert Lord Enterprises
> http://www.desertlord.com/
> http://www.KitKar.com/
> http://www.NavySealsWatches.com/
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> Reply-To: <rohlf@life.bio.sunysb.edu>
> From: "F. James Rohlf" <rohlf@life.bio.sunysb.edu>
> To: "Interchange-Users" <interchange-users@lists.akopia.com>
> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:47:30 -0500
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Subject: [ic] FrontPage
> Reply-To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
>
> I seemed to have touched a raw nerve!
>
> Yes, I am a programmer! I started using SOAP (an assembly language) on the
> IBM 650 in 1958. I have gone through _many_ languages since then. I also
am
> quite comfortable in HTML etc. However, when there is a tool that saves
time
> I use it. I want to get the job done. Developing an entire website in an
> ASCII editor is possible (I have done it to learn) but it is a waste of
time
> for routine use when _real_ HTML editors offer so many conveniences.
>
> I asked the question because I thought there might be enough usage of IC
> that someone would have developed special add-on tools for one of the HTML
> editors. I take it that the answer is 'no'.
>
> Jim
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:56:44 -0500 (EST)
> From: "Casey R. Tweten" <crt@kiski.net>
> To: Interchange-Users <interchange-users@lists.akopia.com>
> Subject: Re: [ic] FrontPage
> Reply-To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
>
> Today around 9:47am, F. James Rohlf hammered out this masterpiece:
>
> : I asked the question because I thought there might be enough usage of IC
> : that someone would have developed special add-on tools for one of the
HTML
> : editors. I take it that the answer is 'no'.
>
> One of those reasons is tha Open Source does not equal pay
> software.  Or pay Operating Systems.  Therefore, the chances of you
> finding what your after are slim, since there aren't any useable
> Open Source WYSIWYG HTML editors.
>
> --
> print(join(' ', qw(Casey R. Tweten)));my
$sig={mail=>'crt@kiski.net',site=>
> 'http://home.kiski.net/~crt'};print
"\n",'.'x(length($sig->{site})+6),"\n";
> print map{$_.':
'.$sig->{$_}."\n"}sort{$sig->{$a}cmp$sig->{$b}}keys%{$sig};
> my $VERSION = '0.01'; #'patched' by Jerrad Pierce <belg4mit at MIT dot
EDU>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:27:08 -0500
> From: Mike Heins <mikeh@minivend.com>
> To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
> Subject: Re: [ic] FrontPage
> Reply-To: mike@minivend.com
> Reply-To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
>
> Quoting F. James Rohlf (rohlf@life.bio.sunysb.edu):
> > I seemed to have touched a raw nerve!
> >
> > Yes, I am a programmer! I started using SOAP (an assembly language) on
the
> > IBM 650 in 1958. I have gone through _many_ languages since then. I also
am
> > quite comfortable in HTML etc. However, when there is a tool that saves
time
> > I use it. I want to get the job done. Developing an entire website in an
> > ASCII editor is possible (I have done it to learn) but it is a waste of
time
> > for routine use when _real_ HTML editors offer so many conveniences.
> >
> > I asked the question because I thought there might be enough usage of IC
> > that someone would have developed special add-on tools for one of the
HTML
> > editors. I take it that the answer is 'no'.
> >
>
> Please, no editor wars. This is off-topic.
>
> As a side note, at one time I spent hundreds of hours trying to
> integrate FrontPage '97/98 with (at that time) Minivend. It was a
> losing proposition, as when I delved into the SDK I found quite a few
> limitations and not a few bugs. Though I am sure they have been fixed
> somewhat, the non-open nature of FrontPage makes it like pulling teeth
> to get information about the SDK.  Add the bad security problems of
> the FrontPage publisher and it became clear that it was time to give
> it up. (I probably would never have started if it had been a Microsoft
> product to begin with -- perhaps noone else remembers Vermeer, who they
> bought it from.)
>
> Another problem I found was that FrontPage "masterminded" the HTML,
> relocating comments to whereever if wanted, urlencoding things that should
> have been left untouched, etc. They have since added the equivalent of
> a <notouch> tag, but I was soured on FrontPage forever at that point.
>
> --
> Red Hat, Inc., 131 Willow Lane, Floor 2, Oxford, OH  45056
> phone +1.513.523.7621 fax 7501 <mheins@redhat.com>
>
> Experience is what allows you to recognize a mistake the second
> time you make it. -- unknown
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:27:21 -0600
> From: davidb <davidb@communitylink.com>
> To: <interchange-users@lists.akopia.com>
> Subject: [ic] Basket won't go anwhere
> Reply-To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
>
> I just tested out my new catalog before inputting any data to make sure
that
> I could place an order and to be certain that the secure server worked.
> This all appeared to be fine. Next, I added items descriptions and images
> and customized a few other pages. Now, when I try to place an order from
the
> basket, the page never gets anywhere.  It tries to reach the secure server
> but wont respond.  Also, after doing this, all other attempts to access
> admin have resulted in extremely slow load times. I have tried to restart
IC
> several times to no effect. Could this be a problem with the SSL?  I
checked
> my permissions and everything seemed ok.  The only thing I could think of
is
> that I deleted something from the cart template.  I will continue to check
> the templates for trouble.  The other site that I built works fine and
uses
> the same secure server.  Any advice is appreciated.
> davidb
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:27:18 -0800
> To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
> From: Ed LaFrance <edl@newmediaems.com>
> Subject: RE: >>>[ic] Fw: Big Login Problem
> Reply-To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
>
> At 05:41 AM 03/19/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> >You wrote ...
> >
> > >>username: interchange
> > >>Password: pass
> >
> >Ok now that I tried that and it doesnt work, what next? I will reiterate
my
> >previous question..
> >just what files in the system can I go to to reset the password?
Obviously I
> >have screwed something up, and I just cannot get in.
> >
> >I need to figure out how to get in to the admin area so aI can build my
shop
> >
> >Alan Young
> >ary@communicationfactory.com
>
> Take a look in your products directory for a file called access.asc, and
> view the contents of the file.  The Super User username and password
should
> be there...unfortunately the pwd will be encrypted, but perhaps seeing the
> username will jog your memory.  This uname and pwd was set by you when you
> created the catalog with makecat (whether you accepted the defaults or
> entered a custom pair).
>
> - Ed L.
>
>
>
>
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> --__--__--
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:02:52 -0800
> From: "Mat Jones - booksellersolutions.com" <mat@booksellersolutions.com>
> To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
> Subject: [ic] search fields
> Reply-To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
>
> A client has a coordinated search which has the following fields to
search:
> author
> title
> category
> illustrator
>
> How would I display on the results page, the name of the fields which were
> searched... eg if they only fill out author category, on search form, how
> can i make it display
>  "You searched for author - whatever in category - whatever"
> Using [value mv_search_field] only pulls up a list of ALL search_field
> values, whether empty or not.
> is there something similar to $Values->{mv_searchspec}[0] i can use ??
>
> Thanks
>
> Mat
>
> booksellersolutions.com
>
> Read what the SF Examiner says about booksellersolutions.com:
> http://www.sfexaminer.com/business/default.jsp?story=b.web.0121
>
> 2141 Mission St #301
> San Francisco, CA 94110
> (415) 554-0568
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:11:33 -0800
> To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
> From: Ed LaFrance <edl@newmediaems.com>
> Subject: Re: [ic] HTML editor
> <NDBBIAJOAIAIEOOONFDKIELICHAA.rohlf@life.bio.sunysb.edu>
> Reply-To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
>
> At 07:17 PM 03/20/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> >If you are a REAL web developer, you should use vi, vim, gvim, pico,
> >notepad, or
> >just plain old MS-DOS edit.
> >
> >Frontpage is for people who know nothing. No professional in his right
mind
> >would be caught dead using FrontPage. God the hours I have spent cleaning
> >up the
> >crappy useless code it produces.
> >
> >Here is a simple answer real professional web authors write their own
> >code. Just
> >like real programmers. Are you a professional or not? God I always love
this
> >one! (-: FrontPage YUCK!
> >
> >John Beima
>
> I agree, Frontpage is a pig.  But I would not condemn all WYSIWYG editors
> due to its lack of merits. I often use a visual tool when starting a new
> project, just to generate a few standardized page layouts to solidify the
> look and feel of the site.  Clients like this, and I like it, because it
> gets the decorating out of the way up front.  Then I switch to a text
> editor and don't look back.
>
> - Ed L.
>
>
>
>
>
> >Quoting "F. James Rohlf" <rohlf@life.bio.sunysb.edu>:
> >
> > > Editing the Interchange catalog files seems a bit awkward because the
> > > various files (pages, special_pages, and normal HTML files) get
swapped
> > > in
> > > and out dynamically by Interchange. Which HTML editors work best in
this
> > > environment? Obviously, MS FrontPage which I have used for 'normal'
web
> > > pages does not work so well here -- even if I could figure out how to
> > > get
> > > the FrontPage extensions installed.
> > >
> > > Thanks, Jim
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Interchange-users mailing list
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> >
> >John Beima
> >jbeima@palb.com, support@alocalagent.com, and support@alocalchurch.com
> >
> >P.A.L.B. Systems - Phone: (780)451-1086 - Fax: (780)447-4760
> >11639-122 Street, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, T5M 0B6
> >
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> >
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> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:07:49 +0100
> From: "joachim.richter" <joachim.richter@usvideocenter.de>
> To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
> Subject: [ic] Checkout --- Required vs not required
> Reply-To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
>
> hi,
>
> on the checkout page there are different fields some of them are required
some are not,
> changing the required form 1 to 0 only changes from "bold" to "not bold"
>
> does anybody know the location of the file(?) which configures the
requirements of the checkout page ?
> i like to add fields and make them required i.e. if not filled they should
turn red,
> where I do i change these settings ?
>
> thanx
>
>
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>
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> Message: 17
> From: John Beima <jbeima@reality.palb.com>
> To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
> Subject: Re: [ic] HTML editor
> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:16:58 -0700 (MST)
> Reply-To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
>
> G'Day Casey,
>
> You are correct I did forget emacs... My appoligies to it!
>
> Something you folks may or may not have known is the lastest version of
gvim
> DOES in fact sytax check you HTML code on two different levels!
>
> John
>
>
> Quoting "Casey R. Tweten" <crt@kiski.net>:
>
> > Today around 11:09pm, Greg Gaskill hammered out this masterpiece:
> >
> > : ----- Original Message -----
> > : From: "John Beima" <jbeima@reality.palb.com>
> > : To: <interchange-users@lists.akopia.com>
> > : Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 9:17 PM
> > : Subject: Re: [ic] HTML editor
> > :
> > :
> > : > If you are a REAL web developer, you should use vi, vim, gvim, pico,
> > notepad, or
> > : > just plain old MS-DOS edit.
> >
> > Ahem, since the "those are not HTML editors" card was already played,
> > I'd like to mention the forgotten hero: emacs.  A text editor that can
> > be anything you darn well please.
> >
> > : > Here is a simple answer real professional web authors write their
> > own code. Just
> > : > like real programmers. Are you a professional or not? God I always
> > love this
> > : > one! (-: FrontPage YUCK!
> >
> > Yes, front page sucks.  However, blanket statements like this are just
> > wrong.  Let me preface: I am a Perl who works only on Linux
> > workstations.  I know a great many designers who are professional and
> > nationally recognized who use Dream Weaver.  As a developer, I hate
> > revieving their code but I also love their work.  It is the constant
> > struggle between the forces.  What is good for programmers is not
> > always good for designers.  We can't be so narrow minded as to expect
> > them to conform to what we like, likewise for them.
> >
> > Also, it is important to remember that when editing interchange pages
> > and components, it is not HTML that you are editing, it is interchange
> > templates.  Thinking that way, you quickly realize that forefitting
> > the HTML syntax highlighting is something one can live with.
> >
> > The front page note suggests the origional asker doen't know HTML (
> > not knocking you, just guessing ) and doesn't care to learn.  My
> > suggestion: 1) pick up a copy of DreamWeaver, 2) Ask your developers
> > to use HTML comment style tags ( you *can* do this right?  or am I
> > thinking TT? ) and that shouldn't freak out DreamWeaver too much.  I
> > hold no legal accountablilty if DreamWeaver wrecks your "insert
> > buzzwords here" web site.
> >
> > : Actually, I let the graphic artists use whatever they are
> > : comfortable with, then clean up the raw html and wedge in the
> > : interchange tags where needed.  I consider myself a programmer not a
> > : visual artist, so I don't use Frontpage for coding, and I don't
> > : require them to use a text editor for layout and design.  I say what
> > : fields are needed on a particular type of page, and they "paint me a
> > : picture" of a web page. This way we end up with an end product that
> > : looks good and also works correctly.
> >
> > And, as of today, given the technologies that exist, this is the way
> > it should be.  YMMV.
> >
> > --
> > print(join(' ', qw(Casey R. Tweten)));my
> > $sig={mail=>'crt@kiski.net',site=>
> > 'http://home.kiski.net/~crt'};print
> > "\n",'.'x(length($sig->{site})+6),"\n";
> > print map{$_.':
> > '.$sig->{$_}."\n"}sort{$sig->{$a}cmp$sig->{$b}}keys%{$sig};
> > my $VERSION = '0.01'; #'patched' by Jerrad Pierce <belg4mit at MIT dot
> > EDU>
> >
> >
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> > http://lists.akopia.com/mailman/listinfo/interchange-users
> >
>
>
>
> John Beima
> jbeima@palb.com, support@alocalagent.com, and support@alocalchurch.com
>
> P.A.L.B. Systems - Phone: (780)451-1086 - Fax: (780)447-4760
> 11639-122 Street, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, T5M 0B6
>
> Affordable Web Pages - Phone: (888)932-9990 - Fax: (256)351-7297
> 2713B Spring Place SW, Decatur, Alabama, United States, 35603
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> Message: 18
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> From: Dylan Oliver <doliver@hampshire.edu>
> Organization: Global View International
> To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:40:59 -0600
> Subject: [ic] gvim indentation, was html editors
> Reply-To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
>
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> On Wednesday 21 March 2001 11:16, you wrote:
> > G'Day Casey,
> >
> > You are correct I did forget emacs... My appoligies to it!
> >
> > Something you folks may or may not have known is the lastest version of
> > gvim DOES in fact sytax check you HTML code on two different levels!
> >
> > John
>
> This is, again, off-topic, but I have been seeking help on this subject
for a
> while now. I have seen gvim's syntax highlighting and like its keystrokes,
> but severely miss XEmacs' html indentation. Can gvim automatically indent
> HTML? If so, how can I activate it? I'm happy to take answers off-list.
> - --
> Dylan Oliver
>    http://stout.hampshire.edu/~dao99
> Global View International
>    http://www.globalview-intl.com
> Do you know how little you know?
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> Message: 19
> To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
> Subject: Re: [ic] HTML editor
> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:55:32 -0500 (EST)
> From: Chris Jesseman <admin@sitemajic.net>
> Reply-To: interchange-users@lists.akopia.com
>
> Back on topic...
>
> I wrote a color syntax highlight mode for Interchange that plugs into
jEdit,
> which is OSS. I'm using it daily and it does a pretty good job (knock
knock) of
> highliting IC tags, embeded perl, and outside HTML. I posted a link on
this
> list a few weeks ago...
>
> -Chris
>
> > At 07:17 PM 03/20/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> > >If you are a REAL web developer, you should use vi, vim, gvim, pico,
> > >notepad, or
> > >just plain old MS-DOS edit.
> > >
> > >Frontpage is for people who know nothing. No professional in his right
> > mind
> > >would be caught dead using FrontPage. God the hours I have spent
> > cleaning
> > >up the
> > >crappy useless code it produces.
> > >
> > >Here is a simple answer real professional web authors write their own
> >
> > >code. Just
> > >like real programmers. Are you a professional or not? God I always love
> > this
> > >one! (-: FrontPage YUCK!
> > >
> > >John Beima
> >
> > I agree, Frontpage is a pig.  But I would not condemn all WYSIWYG
> > editors
> > due to its lack of merits. I often use a visual tool when starting a new
> >
> > project, just to generate a few standardized page layouts to solidify
> > the
> > look and feel of the site.  Clients like this, and I like it, because it
> >
> > gets the decorating out of the way up front.  Then I switch to a text
> > editor and don't look back.
> >
> > - Ed L.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >Quoting "F. James Rohlf" <rohlf@life.bio.sunysb.edu>:
> > >
> > > > Editing the Interchange catalog files seems a bit awkward because
> > the
> > > > various files (pages, special_pages, and normal HTML files) get
> > swapped
> > > > in
> > > > and out dynamically by Interchange. Which HTML editors work best in
> > this
> > > > environment? Obviously, MS FrontPage which I have used for 'normal'
> > web
> > > > pages does not work so well here -- even if I could figure out how
> > to
> > > > get
> > > > the FrontPage extensions installed.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Jim
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >John Beima
> > >jbeima@palb.com, support@alocalagent.com, and
> > support@alocalchurch.com
> > >
> > >P.A.L.B. Systems - Phone: (780)451-1086 - Fax: (780)447-4760
> > >11639-122 Street, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, T5M 0B6
> > >
> > >Affordable Web Pages - Phone: (888)932-9990 - Fax: (256)351-7297
> > >2713B Spring Place SW, Decatur, Alabama, United States, 35603
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
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> >
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> > (530) 622-9421                 http://www.newmediaems.com
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