[ic] Re: Recommendation for CA to issue Certs.

[Barry Treahy, Jr.]

Nathan D. Olmscheid wrote:

> Barry,
> That is fairly inexpensive to me. If your clients want SSL, you charge 
> them for it? Its as easy as that?
> Not everything can be free. You can easily charge clients $100 a year 
> for the cert?? or not? We have some smaller ma and pa shops that we 
> host and they are even happy to pay that  price? And our larger 
> clients, they could care less.
> Nathan
> P.S. I will say that Thawte is a pain in the butt to deal with though. 
> Some of there CS reps are pretty far out there!!! 

Hi Nathan,

I did mention too that we are NOT an ISP, so I cannot forward these 
expense on, they must be absorbed through operating overhead.

Yes, I agree with your assesment of their reps however...

Regards,

Barry

ps. you should really work on your quoting :-)

>
> Barry Treahy, Jr. writes:
>
>> Nathan D. Olmscheid wrote:
>>
>>> We are using thawte wild card certs. (sub domain certs) Work fine 
>>> for us.
>>> Assigning your own. Same security, its just that browsers will not 
>>> recognize it as a trusted cert.
>>> Nathan
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hi Nathan,
>> perhaps you missed the point, I am with Thawte and their rates for 
>> wildcards have jumped from $250 per year when we first started to 
>> $400 plus $50 per host.  $500 per year (for two hosts) for an 
>> electronic transaction that requires very little effort on their part 
>> for an automated process is extreme...
>> Regards,
>> Barry
>>
>>>
>>> Barry Treahy, Jr. writes:
>>>
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> I have used Thawte for the past five years, primarily because they 
>>>> were
>>>> one of the few CA's that issued wildcards, and also because they were
>>>> the cheapest.  Since that time, Verisign swallowed them up and Thawte
>>>> lost much of their identity we as well as their desire to price
>>>> wildcards so that small business can easily afford them without a
>>>> zillion hassles.  During this same time, it appears that many of the
>>>> other CA's have either gone away, merged, or stopped issuing wildcards
>>>> too.  We are not an ISP but enjoyed the flexibility of the wildcards
>>>> because of the ability to easily replace faulty equipment or testing
>>>> equipment without issuing a unique cert to each system.
>>>> You admins that host your own systems, how do you tackle this?
>>>> Any recommendations on an inexpensive CA that does still handle 
>>>> wildcards?
>>>> I'm sick of Thawte, so if I must go for individual certs, any
>>>> recommendations on a CA in general as long as it isn't Versign or 
>>>> Thawte?
>>>> Lastly, what are the major drawbacks of just creating self-signed 
>>>> certs?
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Barry
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