Sorry, I left out some information. > It gets to this point and then Perl hangs: > > /Applications/MAMP/htdocs/interchange-5.4.2/blib/session: > not ok 2 > link/unixmode...... I'm able to run perl Makefile.pl and make, but not make test. That's when I get the above error. I'd post my entire Terminal session, but it's quite long. Ron