[ic] "Interchange 6"? Really?

Stefan Hornburg (Racke) racke at linuxia.de
Thu Sep 29 13:33:05 UTC 2011


On 09/28/2011 01:42 AM, Paul Jordan wrote:
>>> Am I the only one that finds a bit...I don't know...misleading?
>>
>>
>> * the knowhow
>> * the community
>> * ideas
>> * concepts
>>
>> The fact is, IC hasn't had "idea" changes for a while. And while racke's
>> approach is a bit "revolutionary" it takes all the knowledge from IC5
>> and moves it toward a modern perl infrastructure for e-commerce.
>
> I think David feels like your throwing away *his* knowhow, and the time and money he has put towards ideas and concepts in the tech he built around IC.
>

Knowhow is something that needs to be maintained and extended over time, things are changing. IC 5.x knowhow is still valuable for those with
existing sites.

> I understand how he feels. However, If Perusion, Peter, or End Point aren't freaking out about it, then I would rely on what Peter said, and that there will be a path of some sort for all of us.
>
> I'm sure there were a couple IRC meetings, and everyone decided this was best. I think David (and I) were just taken aback by the way that Racke phrased it - as I was too a bit freaked out because I am in the midst of several large projects with the type of clients that are with you for life. The thought that I pour tons of time and money into their projects and have custom code built right now and for the next 2 years only to know I am going to have to learn something new and rewrite everything - free of charge - is a bit hard to swallow.
>
> I'm not against rewriting large applications if there are benefits (like UTF8 everywhere), but I am put off that there is currently an unknown (unstated) upgrade path. Is my all the tech I currently have going to cost me $40k to rewrite out of my own pocket? From today till the the day IC 6 is actually ready to handle my apps, will the tons of time and 20k more I put into 5.x just have gone down the drain? Am I basically working for free right now?
>

The upgrade path depends on the people that want one, they are responsible for putting time / money / effort into it.
Just remember without IC 6 we would be stuck with very little changes coming into IC 5.x anyway.
The main focus of IC 6 is new projects and new people.

> I trust Mike, Racke, John, and Peter so I feel okay with leaving it at that. However I can see that the community would want more than the roadmap.
 > Maybe someone can describe what it will be like when ready. What will the code I use in the page be like to achieve [query], [if], [scratch], or what kind of rework will all my usertags will need?
>
> There are tons of people putting in a lot of time and money into their tech and there is a hole - not what is going to happen with IC, what is going to happen with their tech? Did we make a mistake forging new multi-year projects on IC?

I don't think that you made a mistake. There are a couple of things you can do to prepare a later update, like moving your
code (UserTags etc) into Perl modules etc.

Regards
	Racke

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