[ic] Website down

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> .....
> On this note, I have to say I'm considering shutting down the Interchange 
> mailing lists entirely.
> 
> It has become really difficult to run a public mail server due to the 
> heavy amounts of spam, lots of list subscribers abandoning their free 
> email accounts that fill up and reject all messages or else clicking 
> "spam" instead of unsubscribing themselves, and this adds to existing 
> deliverability problems to the big email providers most people use: Yahoo, 
> Google, Apple, Microsoft.
> 
> The server's Postfix mail queue is always clogged with 50k+ deferred 
> messages because of receiving servers saying "temporarily deferred due to 
> unexpected volume or user complaints" etc. Sometimes we have to just purge 
> them all to start over.
> 
> Given how little real discussion happens here in the mailing lists in 
> recent years, it doesn't at all feel worth it, and we may just point 
> people to the existing options of IRC and GitHub issues.
> 
> I would be sad to see the lists shut down, but the work of dealing with 
> this has for years fallen only on me and Gert. It is not benefitting many 
> people anymore and isn't rewarding.
> 
> Jon
		
I agree that running an in-house email/list server is a big pain, but I 
do like the non-real-time nature of email. IRC is fine but messages 
scroll away pretty quickly. How about something like Google Groups?

DB