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Re: [mv] Netscape suckage and the history usertag
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On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 10:49:22AM -0500, Chris Rapier wrote:
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> cfm@maine.com wrote:
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> > I must have missed something in this thread. Seems to me there is a lot
> > assumed. Reloading, page caching, and putting orders into the basket
> > without visiting the basket page stikes me as a wild mix. I'd be curious
> > to see a short statement of the result you want.
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> My clients have a site where they sell groceries. They want to allow
> people to order something without having to side track to the basket
> page. The theory is that if they don't have to bounce back and forth
> they'll end up purchasing more and quantity is the key for this site.
> Now, since they aren't going to the basket page some indication of what
> is in their current cart is needed. So at the top of the page a small
> bar is displayed with the number of item and the current total. In order
> for this to be updated the page has to be refreshed as the designer
> isn't going to use popup windows or frames.
Thanks. Now it makes sense.
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> You can see the site at www.windfallfoods.com. If you are using netscape
> add something to the cart, hit the reload button, and then try to add
> something else. You'll end up at the basket.html page but if you look at
> the URL you'll see it says 'expired'. I ended up making a link between
> the basket.html page and one called expired.html so people wouldn't see
> an error. If you go back to the results page you'll see the subcategory
> heading is also truncated. If you do the same thing under IE you'll see
> no problems at all. :\
I've got a conceptual issue with that. How do you add something and hit
reload? I got expired when I added an item and clicked on the cart. I'll
**guess** this relates to your successpage or nextpage or how you have
coded basketpage. In my case, I was in a flypage. I think you are
getting "expired.html" because your request is fubar (truncated will
do).
At any rate, you want to send a new page, so you do NOT want to cache.
> Mostly, at this point, I'm curious as to why this works under IE and not
> under Netscape. I tried switching the order operation from POST to GET
> but it was still failing in the same way.
The string lengths in GET are limited. You have some long strings.
On our standard server, WN, the length of a get url can be 2048. I
don't know how much that varies. I know that WAP devices, for example,
are very limited. For now I'd suggest you go back to POST.
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We've wrestled with that concept in the past. You can see that in its
simplest form www.epifanes.com/Catalog/. By the time you add the select
lists or even item quantities to each product the actual HTML file gets
**big**; this is stripped to minimum and it's still about 60k.
Another more nightmarish version - mostly javascript written by minivend - at
http://WWW.MaineLobsterDirect.Com/Catalog/lobsters.cgi/50000
We have a specialty food shop too, where the epifanes rig is set up
by category. That's got ip access restrictions on it right now, sorry.
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> I'm going to rip apart the history tag to see if that might be doing
> anything.
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