[interchange-biz] Re: Interchange-friendly ISP -- interchange-biz digest, Vol 1 #28 - 2 msgs
D Zhang - msi
dzhang@msihosting.com
Fri Dec 20 05:53:00 2002
> As a general note for the record, please be aware that ICDEVGROUP does not
> support, nor recommend Interchange installations under CPanel. See
> http://www.icdevgroup.org/i/dev/cpanel.html
>
I would like to make some statements before replying to Jonathan's comment:
1) I have no intention to argue or challenge icdevgroup's recommendation.
2) I like interchange. And I do very appreciate icdevgroup's contribution,
particularly, the group is now on its own, without support from commercial
companies.
3) I have no relation with company making cpanel at all.
Now, let me begin with fact -- the interchange demo version 4.93, installed
from cpanel of our server. Any one is welcome to click on the link below and
explore its possible deficiency due to the cpanel.
http://www.msihosting.com/~msihosti/cgi-bin/cart.cgi
Please note: it's secure server enabled. If one would like to see the admin
interface, please feel free to send me an email.
I believe it would be instructive if its deficiency compared with non-cpanel
installed demo could be identified.
As a matter of fact, the title of Jonason cited icdevgroup's comment on
cpanel confirmed the possible use of interchange installed by cpanel:
" Interchange is not suitable for running with CPANEL unless the hosting
provider has expertise and makes it available to you. And they almost never
do."
The "unless" and "almost" are specially maked by me just to bring the
attention. Doing so, I don't meam that we are expertise, or we are
exceptionals, but just to point out the recognized suitability.
According to the comment
"Some of those might not be a problem
if the users were well-educated and willing to pay for support for
Interchange",
it's not that interchange can't run under cpanel. The main problems to my
undstand is this : some people
"They come into our community and expect people to waste their time
spoonfeeding them packaged solutions for free".
Well, people of this type will do the same disregard how interchange is
installed. So, the problems are the user, but not the "by product" of
cpanel ".
In our server, we provide SSH access, we also sell instantSSL at $49/year
with free installation of the certificate. Interchange is upgraded from time
to time without affacting running of carts built under old versions, just
providing upgraded admin interface and new features. A user even doesn't
know the upgrade if not loging in the admin interface. So, we are able to
provide stable running condition, necessary working environment, and keeping
up with the development of interchange. In our server, there are catalogs
built under version 4.3, and now running under 4.93.
In the interchange user mailing list, many posts about problems on each
upgrade. Our users have been having no problem at all
That's why we say with confident that we are Interchange-friendly ISP.
Most people are users but not developers of interchange. What are the
advantages users can obtain from installing and upgrading by themselvef? The
most apparent I see is the extra learning in installation, and flustation in
upgrading. Many people use perl, but no many people install perl themselves
unless they have to, such as when using in a PC.
Interchange would become much better if it could be structured like perl. A
core is installed shareable system wild, and one can add additional or
private modules. By the way, in our server, we install modules upon
customer's request if it's not installed yet. To see, what have been
installed, click this link.
http://www.msihosting.com/cgi-bin/perldiver.cgi
I'll continue on SSL issue.
David
dzhang@msihosting.com
http://msihosting.com
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> 1. Re: Interchange-friendly ISP -- interchange-biz digest, Vol 1
#27 - 1 msg (D Zhang - msi)
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> From: "D Zhang - msi" <dzhang@msihosting.com>
> To: <interchange-biz@icdevgroup.org>
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:50:13 -0500
> Subject: [interchange-biz] Re: Interchange-friendly ISP --
interchange-biz digest, Vol 1 #27 - 1 msg
>
> Hello, Avi:
>
> Our server is "Interchange-fiendly". Interchange is included with every
> hosting plan. You can install it with just one click on a link in cpanel.
> More than that, it's constantly upgraded. Currently, it's running 4.93.
>
> Prices are very good:
>
> space data transfer cost/month
> 100 mb 4 gb 15.95
> 200 mb 5 gb 19.95
> 500 mg 10 gb 29.95
>
> In additon, you can use shared SSL at no charge. Or, you can order your
> private
> SSL at US$49/year. We'll install it for your at no additional charge.
> (interchange does
> need a private SSL certificate with the same server naem to have full
> power).
>
> We also provide Authorizenet gateway for online transaction.
>
> In a word, everything you need for a store front is ready. Look at our web
> site
> http://msihosting.com at your conenient time.
>
> Have a nice day.
>
> David
> msihosting.com
>
>
>
> > From: "Avi Mozes" <amozes@hotmail.com>
> > To: interchange-biz@icdevgroup.org
> > Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:21:01 -0800
> > Subject: [interchange-biz] hosting
> >
> > Hi guys,
> > I've been having problems with my current ISP with permissions to
install
> > Interchange on their Redhat 7.2 servers. They're not letting up on
this,
> so
> > I might be searching for a new ISP.
> > So, I was wondering if anyone knew of an ISP that I could use that is
> > "Interchange-friendly" and would not mind a user installing a product
like
> > this on their servers (shared servers -- not dedicated). I'm hoping
that
> > someone has already used an ISP that allows this and can pass the info
to
> > me.
> > I look forward to contributing to this amazing product...
> > Thanks so much in advance,
> > Avi Mozes
> > amozes@hotmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Reply-To: <jonc@webmaint.com>
> From: "Jonathan Clark" <jonc@webmaint.com>
> To: <interchange-biz@icdevgroup.org>
> Subject: RE: [interchange-biz] Re: Interchange-friendly ISP --
interchange-biz digest, Vol 1 #27 - 1 msg
> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:37:03 -0000
>
>
> > Our server is "Interchange-fiendly". Interchange is included with every
> > hosting plan. You can install it with just one click on a link in
cpanel.
> > More than that, it's constantly upgraded. Currently, it's running 4.93.
>
> [snip]
>
> > In additon, you can use shared SSL at no charge. Or, you can order your
> > private
> > SSL at US$49/year.
>
> As a general note for the record, please be aware that ICDEVGROUP does not
> support, nor recommend Interchange installations under CPanel. See
> http://www.icdevgroup.org/i/dev/cpanel.html
>
> Also that shared SSL certificates are not supported. See
> http://www.icdevgroup.org/i/dev/docfly.html?mv_arg=icfaq04.01
>
> Jonathan
> Webmaint.
>
>
>
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