RE: [mv] RE: your email

["Christopher Thompson" <ct@arborinternet.com>]

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As a guy who started and failed on a previous Minivend documentation
effort, I thought I'd throw in my two cents:

- I think Minivend documentation is good. I find answers as quickly in the
Minivend docs as in other docs. Plus this mail list is very helpful.

- Minivend is easy to use. It is a development system, not an application
(like say Softcart). It has the same learning curve as other development
systems. Installation is very easy thanks to Mike's ever improving install
script.

- I seriously doubt consultants will lose any work if the documentation
improved. I have no clients who have any interest in learning any
development system. They just want a website that does what they need for
their business.

- I use Minivend because I type "./install" and within about an hour I
have the template for fully featured e-commerce website running and ready
to customize. And, I can then use either Mike's rascally Minivend tags or
Perl, depending on the complexity of the task.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-minivend-users@minivend.com
> [mailto:owner-minivend-users@minivend.com]On Behalf Of Craig Oettle
> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 7:27 AM
> To: minivend-users@minivend.com
> Subject: Re: [mv] RE: your email
>
>
> ******    message to minivend-users from Craig Oettle
> <craig_oettle@ecsinconline.com>     ******
>
> Birgitt Funk wrote:
> >
> > ******    message to minivend-users from "Birgitt Funk"
> <birgitt@my-deja.com>     ******
> >
> > I am having a terrible connection. This is in
> > response to Lin's and Ryan's and other's posts.
> >
> > MH had provided us space with the option to work on a
> documentation. The people who wanted to participate realized
> probably very quickly how tough that kind of work is. You might
> agree with me that quite obviously we didn't do the job.
> >
> > If you want to complain about the documentation of not being
> perfect and if you belong to either of the three groups,
> >
> > Group 1: You simply can't document MiniVend,  even if you
> wanted to, because you don't have enough knowledge and stamina.
> >
> > Group 2: You can document MiniVend, but you know
> > how much it takes to do it and it is just too much to do for
> free and at the side.
> >
> > Group 3: You can document MiniVend, but you make
> > a living being a MV or e-commerce consultant and don't want
> your hard earned expertise give away for free. You actually
> don't want more freely   available documentation.
> >
> > again, if you belong to one of those groups, then I think one
> should not complain at all.
> >
> > If point 2 and 3 applies to yourself, so would it apply to MH
> himself, so why expect something from him you yourself wouldn't
> want to give or can not give.
> >
> > If point 1 applies to you, then you need to stop complaining,
> because you haven't realized how much it takes to be someone in
> group 2 or 3.
> >
> > MV seems to remain a one-man development for most part, I
> assume. To me it was quite amazing that MH actually made the
> tough decision to risk  money and invest in a professionally
> made documentation, as he has announced on the list.
> >
> > I think we have nothing to complain about at all but be
> grateful that MH has apparently the thick skin and stamina to
> stay through all of it.
> >
> > We need just give something back if we can. It may be tough
> to give something back for the ones who have no money and no
> knowledge to handle MV on their own for their projects.
> Nevertheless one can give back.
> >
> > May be you can buy the documentation when it is out, may you
> we can support in opening an account on minivend.com. May be
> you can donate examples, may be you can donate code, may be you
> can donate time to the list as so many of you do so generously.
> Do something. Anything
> > which somehow supports the project.
> >
> > Birgitt Funk
> >
>
>
> I belong to group one and couldn't agree more.  I've had an interesting
> time just setting up a site based on the simple demo but have a learned
> a great deal.  Much of what I've learned has nothing to do specifically
> with Minivend.  I look forward to the day when I may belong to group
> two.  Thanks Mike for a great program and learning experience.
>
> --
> Craig Oettle
>
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