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Re: [mv] some efficiency boost questions that might help all



******    message to minivend-users from "Michael Schwartz" <michael@panamacom.com>     ******

Hi,
I read Ryan and Kyle message, and thanks, good insights.....i do use </a>
instead of [/page], and my loop searches are all in independent databases
with no more than 10 of them......im trying to combine static with
dynamic....so it seems i am doing ok there :)
Now, the 36,000 item database, what do you mean Ryan when you say i will
need SQL for ease of management?  You mean editing and adding products to
the database?
Regards and thanks!

----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Hertz <rhertz@gyb.baits.com>
To: <minivend-users@minivend.com>
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [mv] some efficiency boost questions that might help all


> ******    message to minivend-users from Ryan Hertz <rhertz@gyb.baits.com>
******
>
> At 04:38 PM 2/4/2000 , you wrote:
> >******    message to minivend-users from "Michael Schwartz"
> ><michael@panamacom.com>     ******
> >
> >Hello!!!
> >
> >After having two catalogs online, one of them a portal (no selling), and
the
> >other one a virtual store, i have a few statistics to share hoping that
some
> >of you had the same experience and might be able to give me some tips.
> >
> >The virtual store gets aprox. 40 unique visitors a day.  The portal is
> >starting up, so it gets 250 (increasing) unique visitors a day.
> >I have a Pentium iii, with a good connection (oc-12), and it has 128M
> >Ram.....(which i think should be more), running on Red Hat Linux 6.0,
Apache
> >Web Server....i provide the hosting.
>
> Very nice!  But you couldn't possibly be using all of an OC-12, that's
like
> 12 un-multiplexed strands of fiber optic.
>
> >I am using the built in database feature in minivend, not mySQL.
> >The virtual store has 1000 items, the portal has around 1000 items also,
but
> >separated in different tables to create dynamic pages.....
> >The CATEGORY in the products tables in both are INDEX, so i use
> >Dict_look....which supposedly is faster, but TEXT searches are also used.
> >The mayority of the site (both) is dynamic.  A few pages are static...
(help
> >files, and such).
>
> I may be wrong, but I don't think you'd see much performance gain by going
> to mySQL for a relatively small db.  Using INDEX is a very good idea.
>
> >The server load average right now is around 0.26 ( above 2.00 is not
good. )
> >Sometimes, when the page is loading, it takes a few seconds to load the
> >bottom part (just think of the simple catalog demo)....logobar and
menubar
> >loads rather quickly, the rest takes a few seconds...sometimes more.  Im
not
> >sure if its the bandwidth of my local ISP or the program.....feedback??
>
> Seems to me that you have a fairly stout box, you may want to investigate
> your coding efficiency to try and eek out a performance boost.  I stopped
> using MiniVend's "built-in" page design functions and went to modular
> design using [include]'ed files.  I figure that the more MiniVend tags in
a
> page, the slower it will be.  [Include] seems clean and fast.
>
> You have plenty of bandwidth -- that is, for a lean site, you may have a
> lot of images or imbedded video, I dunno.   Really the best answer for
> efficiency is static pages.   I initially had some troubles getting static
> to work so I passed on it, but my server load has not forced the issue,
> _yet_.  So far, so good.
>
>
> >Having all this in mind, i want to run a few more catalogs, for a few
other
> >virtual stores, in the same server.The next one coming up has 36,000
items
> >and im sure it will have a traffic of around 600-800 unique visitors a
day.
>
> 36,000 items will probably necessitate the use of SQL - at least in terms
> of ease-of-management.
>
>
> >Now, a few more questions....should i be able to run these 3 catalogs
> >without problems? do you think i will or i need more ram right now?  Is
it
> >better to use MySQL server instead of minivend's own?  When using dynamic
> >pages, is it better to use variables set up in catalog.cfg, like
> >__MENUBAR__, or is it better or the same to use [include]? (i know static
is
> >the best)
> >What other tips you can give me for improving processing efficiency??
>
> I don't know how MiniVend/PERL would be using RAM, but I know that SQL
> engines tend to eat RAM (makes them faster).  What does your 'top' tell
> you?  Oh, and is that 0.26 average the 'instant' average, or the long load
> average?  I jump out to 0.20ish but my long average is 0.01 with 200
unique
> in the store and running 5 other sites with similar but static page
traffic
> on a P2 400.  'free -kt' would tell you how you're using your RAM (before
> you go buy more, but heck, it's cheap).
>
>
> >Thanks, i think this will help a lot of people.....including me  :-)
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >
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